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mysticreve

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A (very!) new member of this forum, here :-) . Hello, everyone ... can't wait to delve in and listen to as many songs as possible.

In the meantime, here's one of mine, haha ...



I know it's only November, but, given how life tends to rush past us, I thought it may be a good idea for me to write my Christmas song for this year now, as opposed to later. I have a small fear it may be a little dark, lyric-wise, for a Christmas song, but ... for the life of me, I just could not write too cheery a Christmas song, this year. It would not have been honest with myself, about how I actually feel about some things. So ... here goes ... all feedback welcome.

I wrote the melody in MusicScore, the lyrics in Notepad, the backing track in Band-in-a-Box, mixed it all in Mixcraft Pro Studio 10, and then ran it all through Suno, to get a little bit more of a professional sound (I would have never been able to sing the melody, for one. I could have used Synth V, which I do own, but ... thought this was better). See what you think of the end product? Thanks for any and all feedback and critique!

P.S. the video was done with images from Canva Pro.
 
I have been listening to a few of your songs. They are very, very good. I will be listening to more this weekend. Please tell me that you are the singer! You have a great voice. You belong in Nashville. Your production is flawless. Everything is right and tight and works seamlessly to support the singer. I’m jealous! I am proud that you are following me and my silly “music” on SoundCloud. I only use an iPad, an Apple Pencil, and headphones. No external keyboards, controllers, or microphones. I like it that way. My entire “studio” fits in a backpack and I can take it anywhere at any time. I once wrote a song sitting on the top deck of a Mississippi riverboat while chatting with a group of Amish. Another time I sat next to a waterfall in a local state park. I mostly sit out on my patio and write my “music” as I wave to my neighbors walking their dogs.

I was a musician for most of my life, playing piano and bass in many, many different bands. In 2004, both of our sons were killed, and I gave up. I went completely dark for 16 years. In 2020, my wife told me that people were making music on these iPad things so I bought one and started “doing my own thing”. It’s nothing like playing in a real band in front of a live audience, but it’s better than nothing. My “band” is this iPad and my “audience” is people on forums like this. I have made many “virtual” friends from all over the world. I would love to count you among them.

Anyway, my wife tells me dinner will be ready soon. You write great songs! Peace, bro.
 
Paulieworld,

You are far, far too kind. Thank you so much for taking the time to listen! I'm afraid that I'm not the singer (I wish I could sing like that!), neither the producer (that would be the AI website I put my song through, in order to achieve a better production). I have next to no idea about producing, etc. However: what I am is the songwriter. I wrote this song from scratch, melody and lyrics, mixed the tracks in my DAW, and then (and only then) ran them through the AI, so that the production reflected my wishes. I personally find that songwriters are underrated, these days ... everyone looks either at the singer, or at the producer. Since I can neither sing well, nor produce well, I do what I know how to do ... write :)

Thank you so much for sharing of your story with me. I cannot even imagine what what you went through must be like, nor if and how I would have coped with it, if it had been me. It's amazing, though, that you create music, and it doesn't matter how or for whom, I find ... the main thing is that you do create. Nothing can keep a good musician down, in the end. And please, please, please don't put down your music. There's no quotation marks about it, you create music, and (from what I've heard so far, which is not enough) beautiful music, at that. For me, as I've already said, the point is to create. "Good" or "bad". If it faithfully expresses what you feel, or what you intend for it to express, then that's fine, and no-one on this Earth can judge you for it. Sure, they can give tips on how to improve production, etc., and for me that's fine ... but, if a song expresses what YOU want it to, that's it. Full stop, for me.

It's 5:11 a.m. here, so I'll try to get an extra hour's sleep, now. However: again, thank you for following me on SoundCloud, and for so kindly listening to some of my songs. It is a genuine honour and pleasure to be counted amongst the virtual friends you've made through your music, and also to be part of your audience. I will listen to more of your musical creations on SoundCloud, a little later, simply because I enjoyed what I've heard so far, and I definitely want to hear more.
 
Hi, Mystic Reve.

It's a good write, melody and chord progression.

In my experience, Suno seems to create excellent arrangements, and that's the case here as well.

I assume it was you and not Suno that arranged the pause in the music after the word "stop", which is a nice touch.

Since you've indicated that Suno seems to have expressed what you want it to, I guess it's full stop. ;)

Cheers.
 
Thanks, David! This is high praise, coming from a songwriter as accomplished as you are. I can't remember whether I did the "stop" thing, or whether Suno did, but it does work, haha. Thanks for listening and for your kind comments!
 
You write beautiful songs. I have something that I have wanted words for. It’s called Ultimate Faith. The mix needs some work to accommodate vocals. If you are ever interested, please let me know. Hope you are having a nice weekend. We got our first snow this morning. When I was a kid, that was a happy thing. Now I just look at it as extra work!

Edit - If you are busy, no problem. You won’t hurt my feelings. You should take a look at the Loopy Pro Forum. I have been posting there for a few years. Great group of people from all over the world. Very friendly, very diverse, and and they would be glad to have you. Tell them Paulie sent you.
 
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I've finally got a little free time here, so I'd like to offer my thoughts on this song.

Overall, all the elements of the music and vocal make for a nice production. They combine well to give the song its mood. I'm leery of crediting AI, so I'm going to credit you for the arrangement, including the choice of AI vocalist (perfect!) and say well done.

What I don't like about this song is that the lyrics, although pretty, don't establish and follow a clear path. The theme of the song seems to change. For example, "... it is Christmas, I hear John Lennon again, who asks me what I've done with my year, and if war will now stop, if not when." This is a specific (and clever) descriptor of Christmastime, so it sets me up for a song about how we sense Christmas.

But then the second line send of the second verse abruptly takes the song on an unexpected path. Now I'm questioning what this song is about. Is it about Christmas? Is it going to be about children in heaven?

The first two lines of the bridge focus on Jesus, so now I'm wondering is the song going to focus on Him? In the next two lines, you're asking where to begin. To begin what? At this point, I have no clear idea what this song is about or where it's going.

The third verse asks God to hear the the lonely cries of children, and to ask us to care for them. Who are these children? Why are they crying?

The final verse suggests the song's theme is about how sad it is that children die. Unfortunately, the journey to get to that realization took too many derailing sidesteps. Basically when I read the lyrics from start to finish, I see pieces of three or four independent songs mashed together as one.

If this were my project, I would hold onto the music for now, but rewrite the lyrics to take out the sidetracking descriptor of Christmas and the brief story of Jesus' birth, and focus on the children.

There are some nitpicky things that stand out:

- "Good morning, my Lord if You're here..." A believer would not write the word "if".

- "Please listen to their lonely cries." This line comes after an instrumental pause, so I would suggest re-establishing who "they" is (for the benefit of those who are not watching the video and seeing the image of a crying child.)

- "Shattering" doesn't seem like an appropriate adjective for tears. The events that cause tears can be shattering, but not the tears themselves.

- "For He was a child once, too; Your Son." This line bothers me because "your Son" is redundant (He's still God's son) and lyrically it flows like "...a child once to your Son."

Anyway, these are just my thoughts. Keep in mind I'm not an outside-the-box lyricist because I don't like messages that are too deeply hidden to be immediately understood, so always read my opinions with a grain of salt.


We got our first snow this morning.
Here, too. Around 3AM it looked like a blizzard outside. All the ground got dusted and cars got covered, but my mid morning it was all melted and dry.
 
The third verse asks God to hear the the lonely cries of children, and to ask us to care for them. Who are these children? Why are they crying?

The final verse suggests the song's theme is about how sad it is that children die. Unfortunately, the journey to get to that realization took too many derailing sidesteps. Basically when I read the lyrics from start to finish, I see pieces of three or four independent songs mashed together as one.
Reading this, I should note that I assumed - given the reference to Lennon - that these were specifically children killed in wars.

However, this is only implied, and the lyrics explicitly say any child dying.

Given Polkasound's comments, I'd say that if you intended to be about children killed in war, the lyrics should be more specific.
 
I've finally got a little free time here, so I'd like to offer my thoughts on this song.

Overall, all the elements of the music and vocal make for a nice production. They combine well to give the song its mood. I'm leery of crediting AI, so I'm going to credit you for the arrangement, including the choice of AI vocalist (perfect!) and say well done.

What I don't like about this song is that the lyrics, although pretty, don't establish and follow a clear path. The theme of the song seems to change. For example, "... it is Christmas, I hear John Lennon again, who asks me what I've done with my year, and if war will now stop, if not when." This is a specific (and clever) descriptor of Christmastime, so it sets me up for a song about how we sense Christmas.

But then the second line send of the second verse abruptly takes the song on an unexpected path. Now I'm questioning what this song is about. Is it about Christmas? Is it going to be about children in heaven?

The first two lines of the bridge focus on Jesus, so now I'm wondering is the song going to focus on Him? In the next two lines, you're asking where to begin. To begin what? At this point, I have no clear idea what this song is about or where it's going.

The third verse asks God to hear the the lonely cries of children, and to ask us to care for them. Who are these children? Why are they crying?

The final verse suggests the song's theme is about how sad it is that children die. Unfortunately, the journey to get to that realization took too many derailing sidesteps. Basically when I read the lyrics from start to finish, I see pieces of three or four independent songs mashed together as one.

If this were my project, I would hold onto the music for now, but rewrite the lyrics to take out the sidetracking descriptor of Christmas and the brief story of Jesus' birth, and focus on the children.

There are some nitpicky things that stand out:

- "Good morning, my Lord if You're here..." A believer would not write the word "if".

- "Please listen to their lonely cries." This line comes after an instrumental pause, so I would suggest re-establishing who "they" is (for the benefit of those who are not watching the video and seeing the image of a crying child.)

- "Shattering" doesn't seem like an appropriate adjective for tears. The events that cause tears can be shattering, but not the tears themselves.

- "For He was a child once, too; Your Son." This line bothers me because "your Son" is redundant (He's still God's son) and lyrically it flows like "...a child once to your Son."

Anyway, these are just my thoughts. Keep in mind I'm not an outside-the-box lyricist because I don't like messages that are too deeply hidden to be immediately understood, so always read my opinions with a grain of salt.



Here, too. Around 3AM it looked like a blizzard outside. All the ground got dusted and cars got covered, but my mid morning it was all melted and dry.
First of all, thank you for your time.

I believe that the lyrics of this song DO follow a clear path, as I shall try to explain.

1) You've missed the John Lennon reference completely. The whole reference is about his song, "Happy XMas (War Is Over"). I thought any songwriter worth his salt would know that one ... but hey, you don't. That's ok, but I suggest you listen to it, and then revise your critique as you see fit. As it is, the point you're making about Christmastime, etc., is null and void, as far as I'm concerned.

2) The second line has nothing to do with heaven, and everything to do with children who are killed by war or other senseless tragedy. I hope you will agree with me that any death of a child is a tragedy in itself ... so, David Cuny, if you're reading this: I do NOT feel the need to be more specific :-) The lyrics write themselves, here, you just have to listen, I think.

3) The lyric you're wondering about is this: "Two thousand years on, I wonder where to begin". If that's not clear enough for you, I'm afraid I cannot help you, but neither will I modify the lyric, I think it's more than clear enough as it stands.

4) If you have to ask who the crying children are, I'm not sure you've understood any of the premise of the song. I wrote quite clearly, earlier on: "The Christ holds them close in his arms / For he was once a child, too, your son". I will not clarify any further. Sometimes, the charm is in ambiguity, and in the ability to read between the lines, I think.

5) You write: "The final verse suggests the song's theme is about how sad it is that children die. Unfortunately, the journey to get to that realization took too many derailing sidesteps. Basically when I read the lyrics from start to finish, I see pieces of three or four independent songs mashed together as one." With respect, I completely disagree.

6) You write: "If this were my project, I would hold onto the music for now, but rewrite the lyrics to take out the sidetracking descriptor of Christmas and the brief story of Jesus' birth, and focus on the children."

With all due respect, once more, I won't.

7) Why do you think I'm a believer? I write what I like. A believer most certainly CAN write the word "if". As Barack Obama once said: "You know, my faith allows for some doubt". But you are, first of all, jumping to the conclusion that a believer is singing the song, and, in any case, you seem to have a narrow view of what faith is.

8) I agree "shattering" is not the right word, perhaps ... but I couldn't find a better rhyme, etc., so, in the absence of a better word, it'll have to stay there. Nothing's perfect in this world, least of all a song, right?

9) The "Your Son" line is certainly not redundant, in my eyes, because we are talking about children in the song. Read the line again.

Your review reminds me (again, without wishing to be mean, and with all due gratitude to you for taking the time to write it) of the time Tchaikovsky took his newly-composed Piano Concerto to a famous critic of his time, who suggested many changes. Tchaikovsky replied: "I shall not change a note". I feel the same way, but I know you meant well, so I'm not (God forbid) upset or anything like that. It's just that I can't help but disagreeing with almost every single point you made, because I think you miss the point of the song from start to finish, so - with that in mind, I will not change a single word or indeed letter of what I have written.

I'm sorry if this is not quite the reply you were expecting. I'm genuinely grateful that you have taken the time to review my song in such detail, and in such a well-meaning way. You therefore deserve an honest answer back, I think ... and not one wrapped up in candy, so to speak, right?
 
You've missed the John Lennon reference completely.
I think that's all that needs to be said.

I know John Lennon's song references war, but that's all I know about it because I can't stand it and tune it out whenever it comes on the radio. So my critique comes from a person who does not know that song. Since your song is not intended for anyone who does not know John Lennon's song, you can completely disregard my critique. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
 
The exchange of the last 3-4 posts exemplifies why I think it's pointless to critique art.

Everyone has an opinion - but in the end, that's all it is - an opinion. And when it comes to art, it's very personal and subjective, as it should be.

I spent most of my life not knowing what the heck Dylan's "Mr. Tambourine Man" was really about, but that didn't stop me from enjoying it, and it certainly never occurred to me that Dylan should be more transparent, logical, or clear in his narrative. It's art after all, and the artist should be free to create whatever s/he is motivated to create. If I don't like it or it doesn't resonate with me, that's fine, I don't have to listen to it.

Critiques are approprate if the songwriter presents a clearly stated goal or intent with their song, or asks for specific feedback on specific aspects of the song. This provides an objective measuring stick against which the art can be reasonably evaluated. But without knowing the artist's intent, I'm just shooting in the dark with my critiques.

Moral of the story: if you're a songwriter seeking feedback on this forum, don't just throw a song up here asking for general feedback. Instead, tell us what you were trying to accomplish with the song, or at the very least, ask for critiques about specific aspects of the song. This will enable you to get targeted, objective, context-appropriate feedback that addresses your needs.

Or... just ignore my ramblings and keep batting opinions around. It's all good.
 
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But without knowing the artist's intent, I'm just shooting in the dark with my critiques.
That's exactly what happened here. I critiqued the song from the perspective of someone who doesn't know "Happy Xmas." I knew enough about it to catch the reference in the first paragraph, but Mysticreve's song requires listeners to really know "Happy XMas" in order to understand the continuing path of his lyrics. That made my critique completely invalid.
 
I think an apology is needed, from me. Polkasound just messaged me, I replied ... and I want to explain some of what I told him in private, publicly.

First of all (and, as I wrote to him, this is in no way an excuse; it's just an explanation, at best): I'd had a long day yesterday, and saw his comment at midnight, my time. I was kind of confused as to why he "took my song apart, like that", as I perceived it, and (and here's where I went wrong, for the first and not the only time): I did NOT initially pick up on the fact that he didn't know the Lennon song. For some reason, I'd just assumed that everyone knew it. And, when the fact that he did not (in fact) know it dawned on me, I was confused as to why he'd take my song apart if he didn't know what I was referring to. I didn't, at that late hour, realise the circularity of that argument ... i.e. the man did NOT know the Lennon song, he posted his feedback in good faith (which, for what it's worth, I did pick up upon and acknowledge), and he was fully entitled to do so, of course. You can't know what I'm referring to, if you don't even know of the reference point, in other words.

Then, at that late hour, I made another big mistake: in my tired state, I thought I should really defend my song, and explain clearly why I wrote it the way I did. That's ok in itself, I guess: however, I didn't choose my words carefully enough, I feel (in retrospect), and I think that the final post sounded much worse than I meant it to sound. At 12 a.m., I didn't have the necessary "compos mentis", as they say, to see how what I wrote sounded like. I just, in other words, wrote without weighing up my words sufficiently enough to make sure they conveyed my actual meaning in an accurate enough manner.

I fully apologise for every word that went overboard. I stand by the essence of what I wanted to write: i.e. that I like my song as it is, and that (for reasons stated) I will not change things within it. However, I could have phrased that whole rebuttal a lot better, I feel. So, for that, I offer my unreserved apologies.

I hope no hard feelings are had, here. I hold my hands up for any and all mistakes I made.
 
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Since OP wrote "all feedback welcome", I've expanded my earlier comments.

Please note - this isn't a criticism against the beliefs in the song. I'm not trying to evaluate your beliefs, or even suggest any belief is right or wrong.

Rather, it's to explain what I heard in the song, and what I thought you were trying to say, and if I thought it was effective.

Those are a lot of assumptions! Choose to use or not use the feedback however you see fit. Since you literally just posted "I like my song as it is", feel free not to respond at all. Please don't respond point by point, because I wrote too much, and life is short! 😎

In "Christmas", the narrator hears the words of John Lennon asking what was done with his year, and observes that with His two thousand years, God has stayed silent, failing to listen to the cries of children, or even to the words of His own Son. The narrator suggests that God "Imagine a world where no child must die", invoking Lennon's "Imagine", although Lennon didn't restrict this dream to only children.

Unlike "Happy Xmas" or "Grown Up Christmas List", which are generic, the narrator uses Christian language like "My Lord", "the Christ" and "two thousand years". All these invoke a specific, Christian version of God.

I believe this is intentional, as it is a device to target Christians as the audience. As in "See? I'm speaking your language!"

This assumption may be flawed - the OP may just be presenting some random thoughts - but I generally assume that there's intent behind lyrical decisions. And then I try to guess what that intent is, even though sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. :geek:

If I take the song literally, the narrator is rebuking God for failing to care for all children.

If I take the song metaphorically, the narrator is using God as a proxy to rebuke Christians for failing to care for children.

Although the narrator uses Christian language, there are hints they don't actually believe in the God they are addressing ("If you're here..."), so I suspect metaphor is the intended reading. Using God as a proxy, the narrator appears to address the disparity between Christian imagery of "Christ holds [children] close in his arms" with the reality of a people who don't "care to love [children]".

This mashup with Lennon and Christianity feels - to my ears - strained. For example:

Good morning, My Lord. It is Christmas,
a chance to start anew it would seem.


This is obviously a reference to "Happy Xmas". But most Christians see the Lenten season, not Advent and Christmas, as a season for starting again. This line is clever, but feels out of place.

Under either reading, the narrator holds God to the standards of Lennon's lyrics. In "Imagine",
John Lennon's describes a world with "no religion", "no heaven" and "no hell", and "all the people/Livin' life in peace".

I imagine that the informed listener would be aware of both Lennon's songs and Scripture. (See what I did there? ;)).

Although the narrator references "the Christ", he doesn't reference any teachings of the Christ. Instead, he argues that since the Christ was once "a child", "your Son" and "born in strange lands", God should have empathy for children and so "listen to their lonely cries".

This is emotionally compelling, and super-clever. But anyone following the Infancy Narrative a bit further will run into Luke's Slaughter of the Innocents, and (spoiler alert) the death of the Christ on a cross, in obedience of his Father. Plus, there's the bit where in the Gospels, the Christ says peace in this world not happening prior to the End Times. Christians should still strive for peace, but not be surprised when it doesn't happen.

These are pretty core tennants, so I assume that most Christian listeners are going to be as aware of these things as they are of Lennon's lyrics. Then again, the "Hare Krishna" lyric didn't stop Christians from singing "My Sweet Lord", so I could be wrong. :roflmao:

I say this not to argue theology - even more pointless than arguing art - but to suggest that this particular narrative is fraught with issues, where your listener goes down some mental rabbit hole and loses the plot. (Case in point, Polkasound and myself).

So What?

Well, I still think it's a heartfelt song.

And I also think it's really well constructed. For example, you've introduced the John Lennon elements into the song well to support your theme. You've used a number of strong parallels for your arguments. You've created a strong appeal to emotion in the song. You use the conversation with God as a proxy to argue your case directly to the listener.

These are all solid elements of craft, so kudos to you. (You may rightfully decide this is the only useful thing I wrote). 👍

But - IMHO - the problem is that is uses God as a framing device, instead of speaking to the listener. When the narrator says:

Good morning, my Lord. It is Christmas.
Imagine a world where no child must die.
For now, this is still but a dream.
For now, this is still but a dream.


they don't really think that God is going to make the world ponies and rainbows, do they?

John Lennon just straight up said what he was thinking, without any narrative device. And I think the song could be equally effective doing just that (apologies for mangling your lyrics):

It's Christmas morning
Please listen to the children's lonely cries
Help to care to love them and
Wipe the tears from their eyes.

Good morning, it is Christmas,
Dead of winter, but forest is green
Imagine a world where no child must die.
For now, this is still but a dream.
Join us, and make this more than a dream.


Sure, it's a lot less clever. :cry: It gets rid of the whole "Good morning my Lord" that is used to start off verses, but by the end, I think that just gets in the way.

But again - it matters what your goal is.

Well, that was much longer than I intended it to be. :ROFLMAO:
 
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David,

Thanks for that!!! It's super smart, your critique, I think. I will expand on it later, as it's past my bedtime again, haha ... but, briefly:

1) No, I did not wish to correlate what John Lennon asked about us, and what we have done with our year, with God not having done anything in two thousand years. Not at all, that was not my intent. If it sounds like that, I need to look at it again ... but, again, no such intent was there.

2) "Imagine a world where no child must die" was aimed not at the Lord, but generically, at the audience, so to speak. The whole song, for me, alternates between an intimate conversation with the Lord, and reflections directed at the human audience. Even if "imagine a world", etc., IS directed towards God, it's not such as to TELL him to imagine such a thing (i.e. blame him for its absence), but rather: "Imagine if such a world did exist, Lord". The responsibility for achieving it is OURS, not his, I feel.

3) No hidden intentions, and no rebuking God, literal or metaphorical :-)

4) Yep - disparity between God and Christ's intention, and the indifference of his people is meant.

5) Christmas is LITERALLY the celebration of Christ's birth (yes, I know, it was instituted later on, from a pagan festival, etc. . Still ...) ... so, for me, a chance for a new start par excellence ... notwithstanding Lent, Easter, etc.

6) Yep, the line is: "please listen to their lonely cries". But the NEXT line is: "and help US to care". Like I said: the responsibility is OURS. So the intended prayer is: "please listen, and help US to care".

7) I don't at all believe that we need the end times to arrive for peace to arrive. My lyrics reflect that :-)

8) Why not believe in "peonies and rainbows"? God, IF he exists, yes ... may well be all-powerful, and is so in Christian doctrine. So why not aim high? :-) "Our Father ... Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done, IN HEAVEN AS ON EARTH".

Argh ... a long reply, haha!!!

THANKS for the VERY thoughtful critique, David. Hope this covers some of it, by way of a reply? :-)

P.S. I missed something out :)

9) No holding God up to any "Imagine" standards. The only Lennon song I was referencing is actually: "Happy XMas (War Is Over)". Yes, the word "Imagine" is there on purpose, it's THE Lennon word :-) . But no "holding up God to those standards", or anything like that. If anything, holding US, humans, up to those standards. As I wrote, the song is an intimate discussion with the Lord about humanity, and the plight of children especially, WITHOUT attaching any blame to God (God forbid), or indeed asking Him to solve this, beyond "helping US to care". Does that make any sense? :-)
 
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I hope no hard feelings are had, here.
Absolutely not. The whole thing was a misunderstanding.

It was my lack of knowledge about John Lennon's song that made your lyrics appear to be a mish-mash of ideas that didn't converge, which is common with beginning songwriters. And honestly, I should have known something was up when no one else chimed in to critique your lyrics the way I did. It's because they knew where the song was coming from. I didn't.

I'll leave it up to the moderators to decide if my critique and responses should be cleaned off the forum, but it may be beneficial to keep it posted because it shows what can happen when your batch of gourmet broccoli intended for food critics accidentally gets shipped to a grade school lunch room. :)
 
I'll leave it up to the moderators to decide if my critique and responses should be cleaned off the forum, but it may be beneficial to keep it posted because it shows what can happen when your batch of gourmet broccoli intended for food critics accidentally gets shipped to a grade school lunch room. :)
In your defense, I seemed to have read too much into the "Imagine" reference. 🙃

But I think this also highlights an issue with lyrics. There should be enough information in the song that not knowing some reference shouldn't end up leading the listener down the wrong path.

For example, Sing wrote:

It's no use, he sees her, he starts to shake and cough
Just like the old man in that book by Nabokov


That's genius! You don't have to have read Lolita to understand the lyric.
 
Holy overthinking guys!!!!
Have you seen the part in the movie " Get Back" where Paul is creating the song Get Back on his bass? He just lets it flow out. The song lyrics fit so well because they were written with the song, not imposed upon it. That's how you can come up with a song with lyrics like Yellow Submarine.
I've written over 150 songs from scratch without using AI etc....... in the last 4 years. How, by doing. Much in the same way Paul did. You're welcome to check out my Bandcamp page to see if it's a viable method for creating new music. timnash.bandcamp.com I won't be upset if you think it isn't.
 
Holy overthinking guys!!!!
Have you seen the part in the movie " Get Back" where Paul is creating the song Get Back on his bass? He just lets it flow out. The song lyrics fit so well because they were written with the song, not imposed upon it. That's how you can come up with a song with lyrics like Yellow Submarine.
The lyrics to "Get Back" and "Yellow Submarine" reflect that, where the meaning is intentionally unclear or just plain nonsense:

Sweet Loretta Martin thought she was a woman
But she was another man
All the girls around her say she's got it coming
But she gets it while she can


It's fine if you don't care what the song says. But in the case of "Christmas" where there is a message you're trying to say, it's worth asking if the lyrics communicate that message.
 
I care what the song says. Many of my songs have very profound meaning and lyrics. But the source of that insight is the inspiration the music provides.
 
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